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29. ZUZUKELA[13515](Off)Pas|Cit|PM
22 Ivn 09, 20:05:33
mebrdzol ebraelta israelis micaze dasaxlebis shemdeg aqamde modzravi ghvtis karavi (romelic ghmertma qurumobastan ertad daacesa) shiloshi damkvidrda 300 clit. am drois ganmavlobashi ghmertma ers ghirseuli kacebi, zogjer ki qalebic mouvlina tavdamsxmel mterta cinaaghmdeg mis asamxedreblad. zogi mteri ghvtis gamogzavnili iyo codvebisatvis xalxis dasasjelad. es ambebi aghcerilia isu naves dzisa da msajulta cignebshi. rac dro gadioda, eris sulieri done ufro da ufro qveitdeboda, sanam samagieros gadasaxdelad ghmertma filistimielebs shiloshi dadgmuli ghvtis karvis xelshi chagdeba sheadzlebina. mashin ki ebralma erma sheicno sakutari daknineba da samuel cinascarmetyvels stxova tomta beladebisa tu msajulebis nacvlad mistvis mudmivi mefe amoerchia (rogorc mezobel xalxebs hyavdat). samuelma uxalisod sheasrula es txovna da ghmertis dasturit mefed airchia brcyinvale, magram tavmdabali adamiani - sauli. rodesac xalxis zegavlenit man samuelis gankarguleba daarghvia, ghmertma cinascarmetyvels ubrdzana, rom mis magier mefed daviti ekurtxebina. (es motxrobilia samuelis cignebshi).rogorc ki davit mefem tavisi dzalaufleba ganamtkica, man natan cinascarmetyvels utxra, rom ghvtistvis mudmivi tadzris asheneba surs. misi ghvaclis samagierod ghmerti shehpirda davits, rom tadzars misi shvili aagebda, xolo samefo gvirgvini arasodes gamoecleboda mis shtamomavlobas. (tvit davitma ver miigho tadzris ashenebis neba, radgan bevr shina-omebshi monacileobda da ghmerts ar undoda is mshvidobis simbolod asagebi tadzris msheneblad ecno). pirveli mudmivi tadzari ghvtis nebit martlac davitis vazhma - solomonma aago ierusalimshi, rogorc mefeta cignebshia aghcerili.solomonis sikvdilis shemdeg misi samefo orad gaiyo: israelis da iudeis
samefoebad. daaxloebit 200 clis shemdeg, kerptayvanismcemlobis gavrcelebis gamo, ghmertma israelis samefo asurets daapyrobina da misi xalxi gadaasaxlebina. samxretshi, iudeis samefo, romlis dedaqalaq ierusalimshi tadzari idga, davitis dinastiis samflobelod darcha. rodesac iudeashi kerptayvanismcemloba ise momdzlavrda, rogorc chrdiloetshi, ghmertma es samefo babilons daapyrobina. dampyroblebma daangries tadzari, romelic 410 celi idga, xolo iudevelebi babilonshi gadaasaxles. xalxs nugeshad darcha ghvtis aghtqma, rom isini 70 clis shemdeg gamoixsnebodnen. es ambebi motxrobilia isaias cignshi da ieremias cignshi.70 clis shemdeg ghmertma sparselebs ebraelebi, ezras xelmdzghvanelobit, iudeashi daabrunebina. repatriantebma tadzaric aghages. es aghcerilia ezras cignshi da neemias cignshi. meore tadzari 420 celi idga, sanam shina mtrobisatvis dasasjelad ghmertma iudevelebs romaelebi ar sheusia. tadzari romaelma sardalma (shemdeg imperatorma) titusma daangria. is dangreuli unda darches, sanam ghmerti mesiad ar moavlens davitis teslis adamians, romelic israels daubrunebs dzvel didebas da ierusalimis tadzarsac aghashenebs.sinais mtaze mighebuli tora moses xut cigns moicavs. msajulta, mefeta, cinascarmetyvelta da zhamtaghmricxvelta cignebtan
ertad, xutcigneuli daceril toras sheadgens. toris gankargulebata detalebs da interpretacias, romelic ghmertma moses ar daacerina mtaze da mxolod daazepirebina, zepiri tora( tora she'be'al-pe) ecodeba. meore tadzris dangrevamde, es tora martlac zepirad gadaecemoda taobidan taobas, magram mxolod sasuliero codebis adamianebs (qurumebs, msajulebs, rabinebs). chveni celtaghricxvis pirvel saukuneebshi, rodesac diasporashi ebraelta devnam imata, zepiri tradiciis gacyvetis shishit, rabinebma am toris chacera daicyes da ase sheadgines mishna. momdevno saukuneebshi (me-7 saukunemde) tvit mishnis rabinuli interpretacia mimdinareobda; mishnashi mocemuli zepiri toris rabinul interpretacias talmudi ecodeba. zepiri toris rabinuli ganxilva sxva cminda cignebshicaa.
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30. ZUZUKELA[13515](Off)Pas|Cit|PM
22 Ivn 09, 20:14:33
Iudaizmis axali (davitis varskvl) da dzveli (shvidtota menura) simbolikebi
31. ZUZUKELA[13515](Off)Pas|Cit|PM
22 Ivn 09, 20:15:17
B U D I Z M I

budizmi (aseve dharma an buda dharma, daax. nishnavs: kanoni, an gaghvidzebulis kanoni), religia, praqtikuli filosofia, aseve zogierti carmodgenit fsiqologia, romelic emyareba buda shakiamunis (sidharta gautamas) scavlebas. momdinareobs dzveli indoetidan, daax. dzv. c. VI- Vsaukuneebidan. budizmi indoetis subkontinetze gavrcelda xuti saukunis ganmavlobashi budas gardacvalebidan, shemdgom or atascleulshi ki dominanturi religia gaxda centralur, samxret-aghmosavlet da aghmosavlet aziashi. amzhamad budizmi iyofa sam dziritad tradiciad: teravada (sanskr.shtaviravada), mahaiana, da vajraiana. msoflioshi daax. 708 milioni mimdevari hyavs da ert-ert msoflio religiad itvleba. mimdevarta raodenobit mexutea msoflioshi qristianobis, islamis, induizmis da tradiciuli chinuri religiis shemdeg.

dzv. c. V saukuneshi tanamedrove nepalshiindoetis sazghvartan, mdinare gangis xeobashi, samefo ojaxshi daibada vazhi, romelsac saxelad sidhartadaarqvs. jer kidev shobamde brdzenebma ucinascarmetyveles, rom tu bavshvi sasaxlis kedlebsa da ezos galavans ar datovebda, msoflios mbrdzanebeli gaxdeboda, tu ara da, misgan didi cmindani, axali religiis modzghvari gamovidoda.

roca daibada, axalshobili moxucebulma brdzenma moinaxula da daadastura brahmanebis cinascarmetyveleba: es bavshvi scored is aris, vinc qveyanas axal religias moutanso. asitam gaixara misi xilviasgan, magram danaghvlianebuli cavida, radgan dzalze moxuci iyo da icoda, rom ver moescreboda am dghes.mama uflisculs ganmartoebashi zrdida, rata sasaxlis garda am qveyanaze saxva cxovrebis shesaxeb araferi scodnoda. cdilobda, cutisoflis vaeba da boroteba mas ar shexeboda. teqvsmeti clisas mefis asuli shertes colad da shvilic sheedzina.ert dghes sidhartam etlidan quchashi mshvildivit moxrili adamiani dainaxa, romelic dzlivs modzraobda xeljoxis daxmarebit, da gancvifrda, es ra ariso? meetlem utxra: nu gikvirs, es siberea, romelic yvela dabadebulis xvedriao. shin dabrunebului sidharta naghvlian fiqrebs mieca.
ert dghesac man sneulebisagan daudzlurebuli kaci dainaxa da gaigo sneulebis shesaxeb, romelic yvela adamians emuqreba.
mesamed sidhartam dainaxa gaundzrevlad mcoliare adamiani, romelic sadghac mihyavdat. roca ikitxa, utxres es mkvdaria, yvela dabadebulis xvedri es ariso.
bolos sidhartam tavgadaparsuli, yvitel samoselshi gaxveuli kaci dainaxa da, roca ikitxa, es vingha ariso, utxres es aris asketi (gandegili), romelic xetialobs amqveynad, rata ჭeshmaritebas miagnos da am cutisoflis codva-bralis saidumlo amoxsnaso, adamianebi ixsnas amqveyniuri satanjvelisagano.
da miatova 29 clis sidhartam sasaxle, mshoblebi, coli da shvili da moxetiale asketis gzas daadga. shvidi celi ixetiala sidhartam, bevri modzghvari da brdzeni moinaxula, magram matma sibrdznem ar daakmayofila: ver dainaxa mat naazrevshi ჭeshmariteba, romelic adamianebs xsnas moutanda. verc asketurma cxovrebam ver daanaxa gza xsnisaken. bolos, erti leghvis xis dziras dajda fexmortxmuli da ჭeshmaritebis gamocxadebas daeloda.
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32. ZUZUKELA[13515](Off)Pas|Cit|PM
22 Ivn 09, 20:21:36
martlac, sidhartam miigho ჭeshmaritebis gamocxadeba, ramac saxe gausxivosna, sidhartas buneba sruliad gardaiqmna - es gamoghvidzebas hgavda. amitom ecoda mas buda, rac nishnavs "gamoghvidzebuls" da "gasxivosnebuls".

amis shemdeg ormoci clis ganmavlobashi buda dadioda indoetis qalaqebshi da qadagebda tavis modzghvrobas. mas uamravi mimdevari gamouchnda da indoetis farglebs gascda. ghrmad moxucebuli ki igi gardaicvala, miaghcia ra nirvanas.
budas modzghvrebis - budizmis safudzvelia otxi ჭeshmariteba:
es qveyana savsea sulieri da fizikuri tanjvit: tanjvaa dabadeba, sneuleba, siyvarulic da sayvarel arsebastan ganshorebac tanjvaa, tanjvaa sibere da, sabolood, sikvdili.arsebobs tanjvis mizezi. es aris sicocxlis, yofnis survili, ltolva qonebisa da didebis moxveჭisken.shesadzlebelia tanjvis tavidan acileba: amistvis adamianma uari unda tqvas yovelgvar survilze.arsebobs tanjvis acilebis sxva gza, rac adamianebs saboloo xsnas moutans.

xsnis gza rva safexurisgan shedgeba:
martali sarcmunoeba, rata scamdes es otxi ჭeshmariteba.martali ganzraxva, rata adamiani iqceodes im otxi ჭeshmaritebis tanaxmad.martali zraxvebi, rata uari
tqvas sicrueze, ciliscamebaze... martali qmedeba, rata ar avnos cocxal arsebebs - arc adamians, arc cxovels, arc mcers.martali cxovreba, rata patiosnebit moipovebdes cxovrebis sarchos. martali dzalisxmeva, rata mudam ishorebdes amao fiqrebsa da cud gavlenebs.martali mexsiereba, rata mudam axsovdes, tu kide ra
darcha sheusrulebeli ჭeshmariti cxovrebis gzaze.martali tvitchaghrmaveba, rata miaghcios shinagan simshvides, aghar aghelvebdes micivri zraxvebi, arc sixaruli srulyofilebis mighcevisa da saboloo gatavisuflebis gamo.

mxolod xsnis gzis rva safexuris gavlis shemdeg miaghcevs adamiani xsnas, budasavit gasxivosnebas, gamoghvidzebas cru cxovrebidan, romelic cudi da mtanjveli sizmaria, ჭeshmarit cxovrebashi. am gamoghvidzebas budizmshi nirvana ecodeba: es aris sruli simshvide - arc sicocxle, arc sikvdili.
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33. mari_ska19[2](Off)Pas|Cit|PM
26 Ian 10, 18:12:08
xa,xa,xa.reebs bodialobt erti?ieso moszgvrebis centria?da vin fiqrobs egre?qeistianoba tavidave tyuilzea dafudznebuli da iqneb tqven mainc geyot adamianoba da shewyviyot zgaprebis moyola?
34. LORD[4207](Off)Pas|Cit|PM
26 Ian 10, 18:52:34
mari aba sheni azrit chesmarit gmertze gviqadage mgini aqetkewn migtyavs aubvbari. temis avtori religiebs ganixilavs tavisk maxasietebeli nishnebis mixedvit. konkretulad arc ert religiazse ar amaxvilebs yuradgebas da tu nase davkonkretdebit mashin sheusabamobashi movalt forumis wesebtan.......... iqneb mecnierul doneze agvixsna ratom ari tyuili qris tes mozgvreba da ara sxva romelime religia? tqveni azrit romeli religiaa che3shmariteba. cinikuri pasuxebi getyobat da iqneb obieqturad isaubrot tu shegidzliat an saertod acalet temis avtors saubari da mere gamotqvit mosazreba...... zgaprebs tu yvebian aq iqne4b tqven trqvat realobastan miaxlovebuli simartle? iqneb jer tqven geyot gambedaoba ase calyvbad da ironiit or ar ganixilot temis irgvliv mimdinare sakitxi? da ukacravad tqven saertod qartvelui xart? aramgonia. CHEMI SUBIEQTURI AZRIT OkUMENIZMISKEN MIDIXART.... gacvetil frazebs nu isvrit an daasabutet da imjelet an fdaacadet tenms avtors dalagebulad chamoayalibos tavisi azri. wesebidan gamomdinare aq shevcherdebi. danarcheni tu rame gainteresebt piradshi. me movrchi........ tqven ki tu qartyveli brdzandebit dafiqrdit raze saubrobt.........

P.S. momitevet meshleba wera da nu damdzraxavt
35. Dantist[938](Off)Pas|Cit|PM
26 Ian 10, 19:03:26
Tema aris read only(pirveli posti gamogrchat mgoni),anu wers mxolod avtori,aset temaze diskusia chventan akrzalulia!
36. ZUZUKELA[13515](Off)Pas|Cit|PM
26 Ian 10, 19:24:44
Es tema gia darcha? Mari me shen sheuracxyofas ar mogayeneb,sheni naweridan gamomdinare.

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